Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

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Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  Virginia SS on January 20th 2015, 3:37 pm

Hi everyone,

Does anybody know where I can find a used original ignition switch (#5797H)? My dad bought this tractor new so everything was original. A few years back I had a shop service it for a mystery electrical issue. It turned out to be the magneto, but these 'experts' first replaced the ignition switch with a new one. They said it needed it anyway. I rue the day. Nor did I think to ask for the original switch back.

Anyway, their replacement failed Dad this weekend. So, I am not keen to get another 'new' junk switch.
And yes, even at age 83 Dad still uses his SS12 weekly. His stated goal is to live to 100 so we need to keep this tractor going. Smile

Any help/pointers is appreciated.

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Sean

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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  ss12 on January 20th 2015, 7:23 pm

Your best bet it's to find a entire machine to use for spare parts. If he wants to keep it going for another 20 years you will need more spare parts. Just keep watching the craigslist
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RE: SEEKING IGNITION SWITCH

Post  Georgia SS on January 20th 2015, 9:28 pm

HI
I THINK ANY USED SWITCH YOU FIND WILL BE 40+ YEARS OLD & PROBABLY ON ITS LAST LEG, WHAT IS YOUR TRACTOR MOD.#917-00000, DOES IT HAVE THE BATTERY CABLES COMING UP TO THE IGN.SWITCH OR DOES IT HAVE A STARTER SOLONOID.
I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS ONE WITH THE CABLES RUNNING UP TO THE IGN. SWITCH & I AM GOING TO CHANGE OUT THE IGNITION SWITCH TO ONE LIKE ON A ST 16 AND A STARTER SOLONOID. THINK THIS WAS DISCUSSED A FEW DAYS AGO ON ANOTHER POST. IF YOU NEED TO UPDATE THE SWITCH IT VERY SIMPLE WIRING.
HAVE A GOOD ONE
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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch for 66 Suburban

Post  Virginia SS on January 21st 2015, 11:02 pm

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

SS12: I agree with your logic, but space is at a premium.

Georgia SS: The tractor is at Dad's, but I think the model no. is: 917.99420. It does not have rounded fenders. I am not certain about the wiring. I can take a look this coming weekend.

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Re: Seeking Switch - Posting a few photos Take 2

Post  Virginia SS on January 22nd 2015, 11:11 pm

Let me try to share a photo from a PC instead of a MAC.


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Ignition Switch Wiring

Post  Virginia SS on January 25th 2015, 10:26 pm

Fellas,

I was able to check out the wiring at the broken switch today. There is a fat wire going from the battery to the switch and another one going to the starter/dynamo. A small yellow wire at the switch appears to be going to the points. And a fourth wire disappears under the gas tank. Perhaps to a regulator?

This switch has a few other terminals without wires. I was unable to tell if the switch terminal had any markings. I plan to remove it next weekend for replacement. Any issues to be aware of when re-wiring?

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Ignition Switch

Post  Virginia SS on February 4th 2015, 10:11 pm

OK... I took out the old broken switch and compared it to a 'used' one I bought on ebay. It looks to me that the new one is lacking the heavy duty terminals for the fat wires from the battery (positive) and to the starter. Instead, all the spade terminals are 'light duty'.

I was leaning towards keeping the wiring stock rather than add a starter solenoid. Therefore, I suspect I need to find one like my original.

Is that logic correct?
Or is there a way that perhaps MacGyver would use to make the switch I bought work?

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Dueling Switches: Perhaps a picture will help?

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IGNITION SWITCH

Post  Georgia SS on February 5th 2015, 10:29 am

HI
THE TYPE OF IGNITION SWITCH YOU GOT OFF EBAY IS CORRECT TO USE WITH A FORD TYPE STARTER SOLONOID. THE BEST ADVISE YOU WILL GET IS TO INSTALL A START SOLONOID, ANY LAWNMOWER SHOP CAN FURNISH A NEW SWITCH LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE PURCHASED, WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU COULD FIND A FORD TYPE SOLONOID WITH ONE SMALL TERMINAL, IF IT HAS TWO ONE WILL NEED TO GROUNDED, THAT WAS FOR THE NEUTRAL START SWITCH ON AUTO. TRANSMISSION. YOUR DASH MUST BE ALUMINUM TO GROUND THE SWITCH TO BE ABLE TO KILL THE IGNITION IN OFF POSITION, THE NEW SWITCH HAS A GROUND TERMINAL TO BE RUN TO GROUND TO BE ABLE USE ON FIBERGLASS DASHES. ENLARGE THE HOLES IN THE CABLE ENDS AND CONNECT TO THE TWO POST ON SOLONOID, RUN NEW WIRE FROM BATTER SIDE OF SOLONOID TO BATT. TERMINAL ON SWITCH, PLUG ON (M) WIRE SWITCH AND BE GOOD TO GO. SINCE YOU HAD NO LIGHTS BEFORE. TAKE BATTERY OUT DRILL TWO HOLES THROUGH BATTERY TRAY AND MOUNT THE SOLONOID TO BOTTOM OF BATTERY BOX IF YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH SPACE.
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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  pointman198 on February 5th 2015, 8:20 pm

Hello Sean,
The number you indicated as the identification number doesn't exist.
If you will find the correct number of the tractor and call me at
850-896-9607 I will tell you where to purchase a new switch and a new pig tail.
You do not have to use old parts.
I will need to know your identification number to find the correct wiring schematic.
If you haven't solved your problem just call me. I have been through this.

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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  pointman198 on February 5th 2015, 9:02 pm

Hello Again Sean,
I have found that the number you thought was your Dad's tractor does infact exist.
All you have to do is call me.
850-896-9607

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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  pointman198 on February 12th 2015, 4:25 pm

I have posted two times telling you I have the sollution to your ignition switch problem.
Based on your nonresponse I'm not sure you're serious. If you are, here where you will find your switch.
Ebay: ignition starter key switch for vintage sears roper suburban tractor 365401RAYP
Sellers ebay name is fuzzicle
Best Regards,
frank

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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  pointman198 on February 12th 2015, 4:38 pm

Another source for the switch you are looking for is mowtownusa 16.99
shipping 4.99
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Re: Seeking Ignition Switch #5797H for 66 Suburban 12

Post  66custom6 on February 22nd 2015, 8:04 pm

If the tractor does not have a solenoid I would suggest adding one,all the power is going through the switch when starting and possibly be the main reason those switches go bad. I am adding a solenoid to all my Sears tractors that did not originally come with one and replacing the battery cables too,I have noticed they start easier too.

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